"You wanted open war. We are going to (wage) open war," Sayyed Hassan Nasrallah said in a telephone message broadcast live on Hizbollah television after his house was hit as Israel ramped up the assault it launched after Hizbollah fighters seized two Israeli soldiers and killed eight."
Mr. Hassan has no idea what he's got coming. Isreal by itself has the strength to take on the region. If the US enters the brawl, then we may finally root out the terror in the region.
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oh, you're right...WorldWar III is a great idea. are you planning on fighting in this war?
when will you be enlisting in the army?
Hey, Palm Boy, I know the world will be a better place w/o Syria and Iran along w/ N Korea but do you think we can really go into a war with them at this time when we are spread thin in Iraq and are in so much debt because of it?
Anonymous: The Army isnt the only service. :D
Mercy: Yes we can. ;) If you will notice, Israel is KILLING Lebanon with just airstrikes...not many ground troops. :)
I won't be enlisting in the army, but most likely the Unitied States Marine Corp.
If there is a war to be fought, then I will be there fighting it, defending the gates of freedom.
World War III is a great idea, if it solves the problem. Peace is not the absense of conflict. Peace is when the good guys have the big guns, and are willing to use them. Who are the good guys? The United States, the United Kingdom, Austrelia, the United Arab Emeriates, Isreal, Kuwait, Saudia Arabia, Canada, and even the Russians & the Germans, from time to time.
Mercy, why so little faith in the United States? We are not spread thin. Well nigh 40 thousand troops reside in South Korea, just as many in Japan, many more in germany, and the number of US troops required in Iraq is falling daily. Since the elimination of Zarqawi, the terrorist strikes in Iraq have fallen.
If we go to war in Iran, the reasourses are already in place, if we go to war with Syria, a minor shift is all thats required. If we go to war with North Korea, then we will have the country taken within 2 weeks.
We are the United States of America, the worlds one and only Superpower.
Or, if worse comes to worse, we could unleash Chuck Norris on them. :D
PB, I know we the US is the best but I think that we need to count the cost first. I'm not sure if we can fight Syria and Iran while we are still in Iraq w/o sending in lots more troops. The other thing is are the American people ready to pay for even higher gas prices as Iran will no doubt cut off it's oil supply which is 25% of the world's oil output? All this is to say that we need to consider all the cost, yes we should never back down from defending freedom and truth but it may take a longer period of time.
BTW, I'm leaving MVB's and moving here starting now:o)
Count the cost:
Waging a war with Syria and Iran: It'll hurt.
Waiting another 10 years: It'll hurt like nothing we've experianced yet.
The consequences of letting Iran develop a nuculear weapon and share it with hezbollah is beyond rekoning. Why should Isreal suffer through more terror and not be allowed to defend itself? And why should the US not rise to defend it's allies?
Oil: Waiting around won't solve the problem, making Iran a free country will.
You don't defeat evil by watching and condeming it, you defeat evil by destroying the insigators and the infrastructure used to carry out the violence.
Glad to have you.
wow. the propoganda machine has really won you over.
i'll be very curious to hear how you perform at basic training.
please let us know how it goes..
FYI
Iran doesn't produce 25% of the world's oil.
(And if it dis, All the more reason to take it out)
Most of it comes from Russia, Canada, Mexico, and Venezuala.
Personally Anonymous, have you ever been to basic training? Have you ever done anything productive for your country besides criticize its judgments? You know nothing of what it takes to be in the armed service, no more than I do. Seriously you can't criticize something unless you have first experienced what it takes to do that thing. Only then do you have the experience and the "expertise" to criticize others in the same boat.
Propaganda on what point?
Earthys right, the Middle east as a whole produces 25% of the oil, and Iran is just one part of that.
And I am curious how basic training fits in...
Basic training doesn't fit in. The ablility of one person to survive a harsh environment doesn't depend on their beliefs but on their personality and the inner strength of that particular individual.
Personally I would like to sit back and watch how the whole Iran, Syria, Lebanon crisis in Southwest Asia (The Middle East,) plays out. Israel has proven their ability in the air to put down threats to its borders, until they ask for US support, let them handle themselves and prove that they are not a force to be dealt with lightly. If they are being over-run, that would be a reason to jump in and help, but as long as they are taking out a threat that was and still is targeting and rocketing their civillian neighborhoods, let them destroy that source of danger for them and their people.
palm - you're so dedicated to the war and the cause - when do you leave for basic training so you can go fight in the war?
and yes, i have been in the miltary, and have gone through basic and this is why i find the comments from young children who will never understand what war is like rather laughable.
Going through Basic Training is not the only thing that makes a soldier. It is the willingness to fight for something that he believes in that makes a soldier what he is. Obviously that was not instilled in you during your "basic training." And if you are as all wise and as all knowing as you think you are, why do you take the time to harrass other people, no matter what their age is, about their beliefs on this subject. Surely someone that has been through basic does not have the time to waste talking to "young children" for for a few laughs. I would think that someone that "mature" would be able to find something more interesting to do.
Once again, it is not necessary to belittle someone just because they think differently than you do. Your words and your actions prove that at best you are no more mature than a young teenager that has nothing better to do than to stir trouble.
As for Basic Training, I have personally been through the hell that they call Basic, and while it is a living nightmare during the experience, there is nothing I am more proud of. I give this piece of my background not so you can belittle the person on this site more, but so that you know that there are those that have been through it and still believe that the war is right. If anyone has the right to be cynical and judgemental towards the President, it would be one of those who has served and is still serving under him, but I am not. Know that you are not speaking to "young children," and watch your attitude toward those that you believe to be inferior, it just proves your ignorance towards your audience.
PS, War is not just Basic Training, try losing a few friends to the "cause" as you so casually and caustically put it, and you will understand the true nature of war. I have already lost three.
So...
Normally I would welcome a brother in arms,
but your atitude and perspective are unlike anything I have ever seen in any service member that I have met.
If you don't mind me asking,
Where/when did you go through Basic?
Which branch did you join and what was your specialty?
And how long were you in?
Also,
just for clearification,
Are ypu the same Anonymos that posted under the Polar Bear discussion?
actually, i'm not going to disclose my unit, my rank, or where i'm stationed. but you can assume that NOT every soldier thinks as blindly as you do.
and palm boy, wouldn't last a day in uniform. he's obviously very selfish and spoiled.
Than your credibility is zero.
Reveling that information would pose you no more harm than exposing your ignorance.
At least your rank and unit.
Unless you're the commander or something,
That won't be enough for anyone to track you down.
As for your point an Palm Boy in Uniform,
I happen to know him personally.
You only know him by what he posts on here.
I think he's got the right stuff.
Which puts him in the a better position than you,
Because you haven't even got the right idea.
Anonymous,
The Last time I checked, being in uniform required a certain ammount of courage and fortitude to face up to one's words and actions and sign their name to them. The fact that you will not merely proves that you do not have what it takes. I am surprised that you did last a day in the Uniform. The maturity level that you have shown is on par with that of a two year old that resorts to verbal abuse when it does not get its way. The fact that you personally attack Palm Boy for his beliefs, all while hiding behind the anonymous option makes you no better than the cowardly terrorists that use planes full of civillians to attack and kill the citizens of this Nation.
Since you will not disclose your unit, branch, or station I am going to assume that you do not have any and are trying to lie to give yourself the ammount of credibility that you need to make the young children of this site believe you. Believe this though, if you should choose to reveal your unit, branch, and service, I will check into the global to make sure that such a person does actually exist.
Should you be willing to actually own up to your words, I will be willing to disclose my unit, rank, and station.
believe whatever you want. it probably bothers you that someone with beliefs like me actually fights for this country. you'd rather i support the right-wing agenda wholeheartedly.
I don't know where you've served Earth - but in fact, there are reasons that many soldiers with dissenting viewpoints keep themselves undisclosed. if you haven't learned that yet, you will.
fair,
The right to ones own opinion is a great American tradition.
And I can understand that you keep some of you opinions to your self for fear of discrimination.
But if you really are in the service,
you know as well as I do that your identity can still be kept a secret while still revealing rank and unit.
which brings back the likly hood of you just mmaking this all up.
Anonymous,
I would rather nothing of the sort. Instead I would rather that a person who is willing to state their opinions so freely and so openly would also be willing to back up their words with their name. What are you afraid of? Surely a few kids on a website can't be devastating to your career in the service, just because you believe differently than they do. I have many friends in the service that do not support the "right wing agenda." I myself do not wholly support the right wing, but neither do I wholly throw myself to the left wing agenda either. There are merits and demerits to both sides.
However, having said that, it is not the soldier's job to dissent or to question an order, unless it is against either the UCMJ, or against the Constitution of the United States.
If you remember the oath that you took when you either enlisted/comissioned, it stated,
"I, having been appointed a (rank) in the (branch of service,) do solemnly swear that I will support and defend the constitution against all enemies, foreign and domestic. That I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same. That I take this obligation freely without any mental reservation or purpose of evasion, and that I will well and faithfully discharge the duties of the office upon which I am about to enter, so help me God." If you were so against everything that the United States is fighting for, why did you take it? The oath is not something that you can take lightly, nor is it something that you can brush aside, saying that it is only words. I do know that the oath is different for enlisted, but it still has the same words for that part.
I don't think that someone that went through Basic Training would be one to hide his feelings. Basic instills a sense of self confidence in a person, the knowledge that no matter how bad it gets, there is a light on the other side of the tunnel.
I do maintain my previous point that if you are not willing to disclose rank, unit, and station that there is an extremely high probability that you are not who you say you are, and are merely grasping for some sort of credibility. The only way that one could possibly find out your name is if you were a General Officer, an Admiral, or you have a high enlisted rank.
Again, what are you afraid of?
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